Fact Check: Donald Trump on The Undertaker’s Six Feet Under Podcast

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It is officially election day and millions of Americans are hoping to make their voices heard by choosing the 47th President of the United States. The two presidential candidates, current Vice President of the United States Kamala Harris and former president and WWE Hall of Famer Donald Trump, have kicked their campaign into overdrive over the last few weeks. Kamala Harris spent the night before the election going door-to-door in Pennsylvania, one of the country’s most important swing states. Donald Trump spent the night before the election campaigning in Michigan. Over the weekend, Harris made a surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live, appearing alongside her doppelgänger Maya Rudolph, during the show’s opening sketch.

While Harris spent her weekend prepping for SNL, Donald Trump spent his weekend threatening Liz Cheney and pantomiming fellatio of an inanimate object.

But one area of campaigning that Trump has excelled at is that of podcasting. Trump has appeared on a variety of podcasts in the weeks leading up to the election, including what is, arguably, the biggest podcast in the world at this moment, The Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

But the one appearance that got wrestling fans talking was when Donald Trump appeared on his fellow-WWE Hall of Famer The Undertaker’s podcast, Six Feet Under. It was a big get for the Deadman, who also recently pledged his allegiance to Donald Trump, endorsing him alongside his fake brother, Kane.

Trump and The Undertaker spent about an hour talking and, as is the case with many of Trump’s interviews or speeches, much of what he said needed to be fact checked. We’ve done that today, just in time for the 2024 Presidential Election. Below is a collection of all the different statements Trump made — many of which The Undertaker agreed with — that weren’t, actually, true.

The Undertaker began his interview with Trump by recounting a story from WrestleMania 29, in which Trump was hidden by one of ‘Taker’s friends in a famous photo featuring CM Punk elbow dropping the Dead Man on the announce table.

Trump then went back six years to WrestleMania 23 and commented on the famous match that he was a part of: The Battle of the Billionaires. This matchup saw Vince McMahon handpick the late Umaga to take on Bobby Lashley, with McMahon in Umaga’s corner and Donald Trump in Lashley’s corner.

And while Trump did get physically involved in the match, entertainingly so, it wasn’t to the extend that he remembered.

“We actually wrestled a little bit. It was a pretty famous thing,” Trump bragged.

Trump did hit Vince McMahon with one of the most awkward-looking clotheslines, follow by some punches to the face, but Trump didn’t actually “wrestle” in the traditional sense of the word. He did end up taking a Stone Cold Stunner after the match though, and while the stunner itself was ugly, second only to when Vince McMahon sells them, it still doesn’t count as “wrestling.” But to be fair to Trump, that’s a minor nitpick that only nerds writing an article like this care about.

His more egregious claim, which came just seconds after the first, is one more easily disproven.

“I think [WrestleMania 23] has your all-time record of pay-per-view buys.

While WrestleMania 23 was the WWE’s highest-gross pay-per-view event up to that point, which occurred in 2007, it would eventually be eclipsed by WrestleMania 28, and a slew of other shows — most recently WrestleMania 39 and WrestleMania 40.

They continued to talk wrestling for a bit, before getting into politics.

Donald Trump, commenting on The Undertaker’s ring entrance and skillset, said that ‘Taker was ‘A quick guy! You move quick.’

He does not, actually, move quickly. The Undertaker, for years, has been criticized as being “slow and plodding.” Evidence of that can be seen in his matches against The Underfaker at Summerslam 1994, Kane at any show other than WrestleMania 14, The Undertaker vs Goldberg, that time The Undertaker and Kane teamed up to take on Triple H and Shawn Michaels in Saudi Arabia, and more.

Trump and The Undertaker continued to chat about various things — ‘Takers size, speed, weight, whether or not wrestling is real, etc. In this setting, talking with somebody he likes and who he knows likes him, Trump comes off as a genuine human being. In fact, it felt like he was the one conducting the interview.

Trump asked The Undertaker if anyone actually got mad at each other, which was a good question.

The Undertaker then compared pro wrestling to politics, which is a really apt description. Politics may be even more “fake” than professional wrestling. But ‘Taker’s point was this.

“A lot of the guys [wrestlers], I’m really close with. And then there’s some guys that I don’t much care for. But it’s kind of like the way I wish politics would get back to. You know, ‘I may not agree with you, but I can share a dressing room with you. I can shake your hand and we can do business.'”

Most Americans could agree that it’d be nice to get back to a time like that.

Trump then continued his interview of The Undertaker, and asked even more great questions that made it seem like he was genuinely interested in The Undertaker and his life and career. Trump asked how long ‘Taker has been doing it. He asked if Taker was still in one piece. Etc.

Trump then said that ‘people’ told him that The Undertaker was a fan of his which, given ‘Taker’s endorsement, seems likely. Then Trump asked The Undertaker who he thought was the best combination of pro wrestler and entertainer, which was another really good question to ask him.

But then, in the words of Michael Cole, the interview turned to “vintage Trump.”

While speaking about the partnership between WWE and UFC, under its parent company TKO, Trump and The Undertaker brought up The Rock. And Trump had this to say about the People’s Champion.

“You know, he was great,” Trump said of The Rock. “I never thought he liked me and I felt badly because I think he’s a terrific guy. And then Dana White said, when I was shot — took a shot to the ear, you may have heard about it — Rock called, Dana said, and said “I want to have his number. I wanna have his number.’ What he did is sort of incredible. He considered it bravery. To me, I considered it like, ‘What’s going on here?’ But uh, it was very nice, actually. The Rock. So you might mention that I said that.”

Now, that might sound like a lie. But it’s probably not. It’s unknown if The Rock actually considered Trump’s assassination attempt (which many people believe was staged, though so far there is no definitive proof) to be an act of bravery on Trump’s part. But The Rock has gone on record in support of Trump (though being careful not to actually endorse him) after the assassination attempt.

The Rock, speaking at the Vault Conference shortly after the alleged assassination attempt, said that “Whether you love Donald, don’t love Donald, it doesn’t matter. They tried to assassinate him. There’s no room for that. Despite it being who we were in that moment, I still believe in my core that is not who we are as a country. So him standing up at that moment, we wanted to see that.”

It’s unclear who “they” are, but Rock did defend the former owner of the Raw brand.

So, too, did The Undertaker.

“You’re a billionaire,” Taker told Trump. “You’ve got a beautiful wife, very intelligent. You’ve got a wonderful family. And you’ve got people shooting at you. You don’t have to do this.”

The fact is, however, he might have to do this. Because if he doesn’t become the president, many outlets are reporting that he could go to jail.

The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/nyregion/donald-trump-merchan-sentencing-jail.html

New York Magazine: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-prison-election.html

Axios: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/04/trump-prison-sentencing-criminal-cases

The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/02/trump-trial-election-loss

Still, The Undertaker sat in amazement over Donald Trump, heaping praise on the man for surviving an assassination attempt that ultimately amounted to a scraped ear. And some outlets even think that wasn’t even real though, again, there is no concrete evidence to show it was not and most agencies believe it was, in fact, a real attempt at the man’s life.

“People get, in the media and everything else, they get everything so twisted,” Undertaker said. “But it takes a special human being to sit on a podium, take a bullet, and get up bleeding with your hand raised in the air. And you let them know that ‘the moment is bigger than that.'”

Of course, ‘Taker is referring to the iconic photo taken on the day of the assassination attempt, in which Trump’s secret service agents allowed him to pause for a photo-op right after said assassination attempt, raise his fist, and yell ‘Fight.’ The photo became one of the most (in)famous photos in recent history, and Trump supporters have latched onto it as an ever-lasting symbol of their hero.

The FBI did confirm that it was, in fact, a real bullet that struck Trump’s ear.

Regarding that rally, Trump told The Undertaker that “We get very big crowds. We had 107,000 in Butler. That’s where the accident took place.”

Newsweek reported that the size of the crowd was probably closer to 30,000. Though it could have gotten up to 50,000. Just in terms of the actual venue and how people can fit in it, however, there is no way it could have even been close to the 107,000 that Trump claimed.

Trump also claimed to have a crowd size of “101,000 in California, and that’s incredible.”

It is incredible. But it also isn’t true. Trump was, presumably referring to his rally in Coachella that took place in mid-October.

While it’s unknown the exact number, The Desert Sun reported that the Office of Riverside County Fire Marshal confirmed that it approved a maximum capacity of 15,000 on a permit for the event.

Those that did attend, it was reported, said that they were “stranded for hours in sweltering heat…after the former president’s rally in California’s Coachella Valley.”

“Social media footage showed hundreds of Trump supporters waiting for hours as darkness descended on the area, with flashing police lights illuminating the scene,” KTLA reported. “Many, including elderly attendees, struggled in the heat as concerns grew over the lack of transportation.”

A rallygoer named Wesley Johnson shared in a social media post that “There used to be like 20 buses when we were being brought here, but now there are only three buses. It’s chaos, absolute chaos. All of us are stranded here.”

Switching gears, Trump focused momentarily on the border crisis.

“I feel I have a purpose,” Trump said. “And that’s to rebuild our country. This country is doing so badly. The border — I mean — I don’t know what your politics are, or is, but uh, your politics, uh, just common sense. We have murderers pouring into our country. We have drug dealers and just, just the border. There’s many things wrong, but just the border. I think the border is worse than inflation.”

Politico reported that Biden’s Border Crisis is the worst in American history, and that may be true. But, as many have pointed out, Trump could have done something about it. He did not, because instead of solving a problem, he wanted to continue to complain about it. He refused to sign an immigration bill that was actually brought to him by Republicans.

“Trump killed a bipartisan bill because he knew it would render his entire campaign irrelevent,” The Arizona Republic reported.

Trump continued speaking about his term as the president, from 2016 – 2020.

“I had four great years,” he said. “We had the best economy we’ve ever had as a country. We had the strongest borders we’ve ever had, in recorded history. I guess it might’ve been very strong a thousand years ago or something. But we had the strongest borders. I rebuilt the military, got the biggest tax cuts in history, got the biggest cuts.”

Taking those claims one by one:

As many outlets and reports have pointed out, Donald Trump did not create a strong economy. He inherited it from the previous administration.

The Joint Economic Committee reported that under President Obama, unemployment fell from a recession-peak of 10 percent to 4.7 percent. By the end of Obama’s term, the economy had experienced 76 consecutive months of job growth.

“During the last 35 months of the Obama administration, non-farm job growth averaged 227,000 per month,” the JEC reported. “During the first 35 months of the Trump administration, the average was 36,000 jobs per month less, averaging 191,000 per month.”

Additionally, during the Obama administration, annual median household income increased by $4,800, which was three times more than the $1,400 increase during the first two years of Trump’s administration.

Trump also claimed that he “rebuilt the military.” That isn’t exactly true.

The Wall Street Journal wrote, in February of 2024, a very simple, colloquial headline: ‘Trump Didn’t Rebuild the Military.’

They backed up their headline with a series of facts and figures.

“U.S. defense spending under Mr. Trump topped out at 3.4% of the economy in 2020, up from 3.1% in 2017, even though America devoted 4.6% to military spending as recently as 2011,” the WSJ reported. “Compare that with the 6% that President Ronald Reagan spent in 1986 while building a 600-ship Navy to win the Cold War. The U.S. is now heading south of 3% of GDP on defense, and interest payments on the national debt will soon surpass Pentagon spending.

“Mr. Trump ran in 2016 on building a 350-ship Navy and expanding the Army to 540,000 soldiers. The world from the Pacific to Europe would be safer if he had followed through. He hired good advisers but often spent his political capital wading into the culture-war defense controversies of the day.”

Trump told ‘Taker that his administration “got the biggest tax cuts in history.”

Also not true.

An analysis by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget found that Trump’s cut is the eighth largest since 1918,” CNN reported in 2018. “The Treasury reports found that, since 1968, three other tax cut bills have been bigger: Reagan’s 1981 cuts, and two bills passed by Obama to extend the Bush tax cuts. Between 1940 and 1967, when the data is less reliable, three tax cuts were larger, two of them after the war, when rates were lowered again.”

Even more egregious, to some people, is the fact that Trump’s “tax cuts,” benefitted the rich, not the poor. And certainly not the middle class.

The Center on Budget Policy and Priorities wrote that “policymakers and the the public should understand that the 2017 Trump tax law was skewed to the rich. Households with incomes in the top 1 percent will receive an average tax cut of more than $60,000 in 2025, compared to an average tax cut of less than $500 for households in the bottom 60 percent, according to the Tax Policy Center (TPC).^[1] As a share of after-tax income, tax cuts at the top — for both households in the top 1 percent and the top 5 percent — are more than triple the total value of the tax cuts received for people with incomes in the bottom 60 percent.”

False claims about the economy aside, Trump also continued his claims that the “election was stolen.”

“And then we had a crazy election where I did much better than the first time,” Trump told The Undertaker. “And if I didn’t have that, I wouldn’t, I probably wouldn’t have done this, because it showed that there’s a whole lotta love out there…That election was so rigged. I got more votes than any sitting president in the history of the country, by millions. And they say we didn’t win.”

Again, untrue.

Not only did Trump lose the electoral college, with President Biden winning 56.9% total votes. Trump also lost the popular vote, with Biden receiving nearly 81.3 million votes, or 51.3% of all votes cast, which was a record and was also more than 7 million more votes than Trump.

In between making those false claims, Trump also brought of COVID-19.

“Got hit with COVID,” Trump said. “The whole world got hit with COVID, the China Virus to be exact. But uh, and got hit hard. It’s never been anything like it. Who would’ve ever thought the word pandemic? I heard the word, but you never thought it was like a modern day. You figure, nowadays you take a shot and you’re fine.”

“Right,” The Undertaker agreed.

“It goes, everyone is fine. But we had a, you know, it’s an ancient form of a disease. In 2017, it killed a hundred million people. And we could have lost a hundred million people too, pretty easily. We lost a many millions of people all over the world. So I got hit with that.”

It’s unclear if Trump was referring to COVID-19 when he said that in 2017 it killed a hundred million people. So far, as of April of 2024, 7,010,681 have died to the coronavirus outbreak. Of that number, 1,219,487 Americans have died. It’s unclear what he meant by hundreds of millions.

Back to the election, Trump stated that he’s running again and was “leading.”

“I beat Biden,” Trump said. “And they saw he was getting beaten. It’s sort of, like, it’s a little unfair and it’s sort of not really what democracy’s all about. But Biden got 14 million votes. He deserved to, you know, run it out and see, and they took it away. They took away his presidency, if you think about it.”

“Yeah,” The Undertaker agreed.

“They call it a coup,” Trump continued. “But it was, they actually took away his presidency and gave it to this one. And this one is worse than him. And we’re leading now, but we have to see if we can, uh do it. We gotta do it. With him, I was leading by a lot. It was sort of over. And they went to him and they said, uh, ‘You’re not gonna win. And we’re gonna replace you.’ Think of that!”

“That’s a coup,” The Undertaker, famed political scientist, agreed.

“They took it away,” Trump emphasized. “Now think of me. I spent $150 million that we’re raging. We’re doing great. We’re against Biden. We have the debate. It was a good debate. He goes down and now I have to fight somebody else.”

According to the Oxford Dictionary — a coup, Mr. Undertaker, is “a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government.”

Put more clearly, a coup is what MAGA followers attempted to perform, at Donald Trump’s behest, on January 6, 2021.

Kamala replacing President Biden as the 2024 President-Elect was not a coup. It was not illegal. It was not unfair. Biden hadn’t even been nominated to be president yet. He was only the presumptive nominee. Nobody is named a nominee, until votes are cast.

Nevertheless, Trump persisted.

“The whole focus was on this one man. Cause it’s a one-man, you know, it’s a one thing,” Trump said. Whatever that means. “And then the debate was like a big deal. And that’s over and you think you have it won. And all of a sudden, they replace. And then the new person always has a honeymoon period. So she got six weeks of a honeymoon period. Everybody thought good. They didn’t think good of her before.”

The correct grammar is “They didn’t think well of her before.” And yes, they did.

Trump continued, stating that “In fact, she was the last of 13 people that was gonna be chosen. But they wanted to be politically correct. So they picked this person and she’s not qualified. She got no votes. She dropped out. She ran against Biden and she dropped out and she got no votes. They had 13 people. She was number 13 and they picked her. And I guess that’s okay. I don’t know. The process is a pretty crazy. You know, when they say ‘threat to democracy,’ that’s really a threat to democracy. I’m not a threat to democracy.”

Kamala Harris did, in fact, “get votes.” In fact, Harris received 4,567 delegate votes during a virtual roll call. In receiving those votes, the vast majority of delegate votes, she was officially certified as the Democratic presidential nominee.

Many people, including Harris, do believe that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. This is due to his support of Project 2025, which he has denied publicly but has allegedly accepted as his own agenda.

The Undertaker’s friend and co-host, Matt Lyda, then asked Trump why there had been “such a swing in the odds right now of you winning, over Vice President Harris?”

Lyda didn’t actually provide any evidence that there has been “such a swing,” but Trump answered nonetheless.

“I think they got to know her, that she’s incompetent,” Trump said. “That she’s a Marxist. You could say communist. A lot of people don’t know what a Marxist is. They say, ‘Could you use another word?’ I said, ‘How about communist?'”

The Undertaker giggled. “Doesn’t get any better, does it?” he asked.

It’s unclear if Trump, himself, actually knows what a Marxist — or a communist — is.

Nobody has ever actually asked Trump what he thinks a Marxist is, and it’d be interesting to hear him attempt to describe or define it. But, Marxism does serve as somewhat of a basis for communism. Still, Trump maintained that people don’t know what a Marxist is. Or a communist. But you know who would know what a communist is?

A communist.

Newsweek asked the leader of the Communist Party if he he believes Kamala Harris is a Marxist.

“We don’t see anything in the platform or statements of the current or former Democratic Party standard bearers—Biden, Obama, Harris, etc., that indicate they are Marxist,” said Joe Sims, co-chairman of the Communist Party USA. “What we do see is the standard GOP charge of ‘socialism’ used by Mitch McConnell, Trump et al. going all the way back to Joe McCarthy. No surprise here!

“Again, we’ve seen this script before—overt racism, alongside vague allegations of ‘Marxism’ deployed to divide and divert working-class people from uniting and bettering our situation.

“Donald Trump’s red-baiting and racism are old and tired divide-and-conquer devices. Trump used both last night. But the American people know better. It didn’t work against Obama and it won’t work now.”

There’s more — a lot more. This article covered roughly half of Trump’s interview with The Undertaker. In the next article, we’ll focus on the latter half of the interview, which features Trump comparing the bullet that was allegedly shot at him to a “mosquito bite.” It also features Trump, and The Undertaker, once again, maintaining that Olympic Gold Medal-winning boxer Imane Khelif, was a trans person and that’s what allowed her to win the medal. This is despite the fact that Khelif is a proven biological woman and just a proven badass boxer. Still, ‘Taker and Trump hammered on that point for a few minutes, and The Undertaker even brought his adolescent daughter into the room with them, presumably to show “how much he cares about the lives and futures of girls and women.”

But we’ll get to that.

The full interview between Donald Trump and The Undertaker can be seen below:

Stay tuned to Bodyslam.net and we’ll be back with Part 2 of Fact Checking Donald Trump’s Interview with The Undertaker.

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